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Title: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 11:44:54 AM
Now that we have representation from a Brewers, Cardinals, Reds and Cubs perspective, I thought we could use a focal point for what hopefully will be a season long bitch fest.  I will try to get at least one to represent the Pirates (I think they will do much better this year than most are predicting) but if have some other hardliners from cBS you'd like to see here, invite them over.

This could be the start of a beautiful relationship        ber
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
Brewers rule

all others drool


where is everyone??
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blacktopbully on March 05, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
Not a fan of anyone in the NL Central, but do have the Reds in my 13-Run Pool so Ill be rooting for Votto, Phillips, Stubbs annd company to swing the heavy lumber!!

It's tough being an A's fan these day... :(  But I'll love 'em till the day I die!!!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
Not a fan of anyone in the NL Central, but do have the Reds in my 13-Run Pool so Ill be rooting for Votto, Phillips, Stubbs annd company to swing the heavy lumber!!

It's tough being an A's fan these day... :(  But I'll love 'em till the day I die!!!

thats' what a true fan does bully

bully for you.....no pun intended    :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blacktopbully on March 05, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
I hear ya.. Too many bandwagon jumpers these days.

I know in my head this will be a long year for the A's, but right now we are tied for 1st with Texas, Anahiem and Seattle!!!

Spring Training is such a great time of year!!!! :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: kburjr on March 05, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
Not a fan of anyone in the NL Central, but do have the Reds in my 13-Run Pool so Ill be rooting for Votto, Phillips, Stubbs annd company to swing the heavy lumber!!

It's tough being an A's fan these day... :(  But I'll love 'em till the day I die!!!

No shame in losing 15-13 to the Brewers.  Good luck in the pool.

Brewers open with 10 games in 10 days. Get to see the whole roster quickly, unless Hart doesn't make it back.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 05, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Andrew McCutchen and his career .321/.417/.521 line against the Cubs is going to be in the NL Central for 6 more years. Great...

Great move for them though, I thought they should've done it a year ago.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on March 05, 2012, 06:51:10 PM
Here we go Pirates here we go!  pit3

This is great news today..though I hope he isn't traded down the road.  Might actually be some semblance of stability in Pittsburgh finally.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 07:40:56 PM
Andrew McCutchen and his career .321/.417/.521 line against the Cubs is going to be in the NL Central for 6 more years. Great...

Great move for them though, I thought they should've done it a year ago.


Absolutely!!  It's refreshing to see the Pirates FO making a commitment to the organization and their long suffering fans by finally signing their young studs instead of grooming them for trade bait.  I have a feeling the team is going to have a break out year this season and will fare much better than the pundits give them credit for.  Any chance that all of their matchups with the Crew this season could be at Miller Park?   :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 07:42:17 PM
Here we go Pirates here we go!  pit3

This is great news today..though I hope he isn't traded down the road.  Might actually be some semblance of stability in Pittsburgh finally.

It's one thing to have to put up with all of the chest thumping Steelers fans, but if I have to put up with the like from the Pirates side....................EGAD    :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 05, 2012, 07:48:39 PM
this made me chuckle - leave it up to the Onion

http://www.theonion.com/articles/prince-fielder-reports-to-spring-training-exactly,27507/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/prince-fielder-reports-to-spring-training-exactly,27507/)

I will miss the big fella  (sigh)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on March 05, 2012, 08:21:12 PM
Braun was heckled today during his at-bats in spring ball.

The crowd supposedly chanted UR-INE SAM-PLE (clap clap clap clap clap) UR-INE SAM-PLE (clap clap clap clap clap)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on March 05, 2012, 08:23:38 PM
this made me chuckle - leave it up to the Onion

http://www.theonion.com/articles/prince-fielder-reports-to-spring-training-exactly,27507/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/prince-fielder-reports-to-spring-training-exactly,27507/)

I will miss the big fella  (sigh)

I was watching PTI a few weeks back and they were discussing whether or not the Tigers should DH Prince..

Tony Kornheiser said "My concern is that if they do DH him by mid-August he will be 350 lbs."  haha1  haha1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 05, 2012, 08:56:29 PM
Braun was heckled today during his at-bats in spring ball.

The crowd supposedly chanted UR-INE SAM-PLE (clap clap clap clap clap) UR-INE SAM-PLE (clap clap clap clap clap)

The Brewers first road trip is in Chicago. That will get interesting
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 05, 2012, 09:06:21 PM
And now looking at the Cubs schedule, they start the season: Nationals, Brewers, @Cardinals, @Miami, Reds, Cardinals, @Phillies, @Reds, Dodgers, Braves, @Brewers, @Cardinals, Phillies

What's the record for most games back by the middle of May?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on March 05, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
Wow that is tough..maybe they'll surprise, or some of those others won't do as well as we think?

Hey Don why not come over to the B&G and meet some of the regulars?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 06, 2012, 05:59:44 AM
The Brewers first road trip is in Chicago. That will get interesting

I'm sure the Cubs fans will give him a real "warm welcome"      :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 06, 2012, 06:05:23 AM
Brewers starter Chris Narveson retired all six Giants he faced in his Cactus League debut on Sunday night, a 7-3 victory at Scottsdale Stadium.

Add Narveson to the long list of Brewers pitchers working on a cut fastball in camp.

"I threw it three or four times today, and it's coming along," Narveson said. "It's a comfort pitch, so the more times you throw it, the better it feels."

San Francisco Giants left fielder Justin Christian's seventh-inning error generated two unearned runs that broke a tie as Milwaukee pulled away.

With the score tied, 3-3, Giants right-hander Sergio Romo, who walked only five batters in 70 innings in 2011, issued a one-out free pass to Caleb Gindl. Jeff Bianchi blooped a two-out single before ex-Giants first baseman Travis Ishikawa lifted an easy fly ball to left. Christian settled under the ball but mishandled his attempt at a one-handed catch.

Logan Schafer drew a bases-loaded walk in the eighth and Ishikawa added a homer in the ninth to conclude Milwaukee's scoring.

San Francisco surged ahead, 3-0, on Aubrey Huff's fourth-inning homer and a pair of runs generated by Gregor Blanco, who came around to score after singling and stealing second base in the third and fifth innings.

"It's very energetic," Giants starter Matt Cain said of the sudden infusion of speed on San Francisco's roster.

But Milwaukee pulled even in the sixth inning as Zelous Wheeler's two-run homer capped a three-run uprising against Giants left-hander Jeremy Affeldt.

Cain also pitched two shutout innings and allowed two hits while walking one.

Left-hander Matt Yourkin, a non-roster invitee to Spring Training, relieved Cain and became the first Giant to work three innings.

Up next: Ryan Braun will be back in the lineup Tuesday, when the Brewers return home to Maryvale Baseball Park to face the A's at 2:05 p.m. CT on MLB.TV.

Manager Ron Roenicke and Braun have discussed an every-other-day spring schedule, which, accounting for the team's off-day next week, raises the possibility that Braun won't have to play a road game until March 17 against the Angels in Tempe. Potential Opening Day starter Yovani Gallardo gets the start, and Francisco Rodriguez is on the list to pitch relief.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Bernie82 on March 06, 2012, 09:01:33 AM
Should be an interesting season.  I truly believe that we have a level of parity not seen in quite some time.

I think it will be one of those years where if you know your team is bad right now, it is going to be a really, really ugly season.  Is it out of the question that a team like Houston could be looking at 110 losses?  I just don't see what I would historically call a "dominant" team in the NL this year. 

I guess Philly would be the closest but that offense is more creaky than the on in St. Louis.  Atlanta, Miami, and Washington should all be competitive knocking their win total down a bit.

If I had to pick a central favorite, it would probably be St. Louis.  Pittsburg, Milwaukee, St. Louis should all be competitive.  I think Chicago is pretty well out of it by the AS break, but they will clear some room for guys like Jackson and Rizzo at the break and become a particularly dangerous team (more so if they keep Garza).

I guess I would pick the Giants out west.  Arizona and LA should be competitive.

I could see 7 to 9 teams with a legit shot at the playoffs with no team being a lock for a playoff spot.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 06, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
Wow that is tough..maybe they'll surprise, or some of those others won't do as well as we think?

Hey Don why not come over to the B&G and meet some of the regulars?

I'll have to do that when I get a chance
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 06, 2012, 08:42:03 PM
If I had to pick a central favorite, it would probably be St. Louis.  Pittsburg, Milwaukee, St. Louis should all be competitive.  I think Chicago is pretty well out of it by the AS break, but they will clear some room for guys like Jackson and Rizzo at the break and become a particularly dangerous team (more so if they keep Garza).

I'm assuming one of the times you mentioned St. Louis, you meant the Reds
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Fog on March 06, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Who's got the best pitching staff in the NL Center?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Bernie82 on March 06, 2012, 10:50:32 PM
I'm assuming one of the times you mentioned St. Louis, you meant the Reds

You assume correctly
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Bernie82 on March 07, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120306/COL03/303060116/Doc-Same-swing-fewer-misses-?odyssey=tab (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120306/COL03/303060116/Doc-Same-swing-fewer-misses-?odyssey=tab)|topnews|text|

If that article is any indication, I would not be holding out much hope for an improved season for Stubbs
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 07, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
Who's got the best pitching staff in the NL Center?

Probably would say the Cardinals between Wainwright, Carpenter, Garcia and Loshe. Although I almost expect them to take a decent step back without Duncan (namely Loshe). Although I'd pick the Reds for the best bullpen with Madison, Marshall, Bray, Masset, Ondresuk and Chapman
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on March 07, 2012, 07:54:40 PM
Pirates' staff took a big hit with Burnett bunting off his face.. rofl
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 08, 2012, 06:55:10 AM
Who's got the best pitching staff in the NL Center?


Hmmmm - I would have to say the Cardinals look pretty intimidating, especially if Wainwright can regain his form.  I will throw my homer vote out here and also nominate the Brewers.  They may not have a dominating #1 but have what I would perceive to be three #2's in Gallardo, Greinke and Marcum.   Add what may be considered one of the best 1 - 2 punches at the back end and you have the makings of a solid staff.

I feel it is going to be extremely competitive in the division and can't wait to get it kicked in gear.

Blitz,  that is a shame about Burnett.  One helluva way to start out the season   :(
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 08, 2012, 09:29:09 AM
GLENDALE, Ariz. -- It's the position almost everybody wants to play as a kid, and the best kids usually do. So why are some Major League teams having so much trouble these days finding a long-term solution at shortstop?

Yes, there are the likes of Troy Tulowitzki, Starlin Castro and Elvis Andrus set on their respective infields for years to come. But then there are teams like the Brewers, Red Sox, Pirates, Giants and Padres, all of whom have cycled through various shortstops in recent seasons.

Baseball faces a shortstop shortage, Brewers general manager Doug Melvin argues, one he knew his club would have to contend with when it traded budding stud Alcides Escobar to the Royals two winters ago to get Zack Greinke.
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"If you're in Little League and you've got a plus arm, they want to put you at pitcher now," Melvin said. "And at shortstop, everyone is so emphasized on offense, they're getting away from the most important part -- catch the ball, throw the ball, turn the double play. If you have a shortstop who doesn't get hits, he almost gets crucified or at least criticized."

The Brewers' shortstop carousel began turning when they traded away the home-grown J.J. Hardy in November 2009, a deal meant to free payroll for pitching and to open shortstop for top prospect Escobar. When the Brewers traded Escobar the following December, they got the free-swinging Yuniesky Betancourt in return, and now they are on to Alex Gonzalez, making him Milwaukee's fourth starting shortstop in as many seasons.

Gonzalez is part of a proud line of Venezuelan shortstops from Chico Carrasquel to Luis Aparicio to Omar Vizquel to Andrus and Escobar. He was surprised to hear some teams have had so much turnover at the position.

"Everybody loves to play shortstop," said Gonzalez, who hit a two-run double in the first and a two-run triple in the fourth inning of Wednesday afternoon's game against the White Sox. "But you have to be smart to play shortstop. It's not about going out there to run around and throw. You have to be in command of the infield, in every moment of the game."

Gonzalez has played for five different teams, and his former teammates in Brewers camp include Brooks Conrad (Braves) and George Kottaras (Red Sox). Gonzalez played for current Brewers bench coach Jerry Narron in Cincinnati. When Gonzalez was an All-Star for the Marlins in 1999, one of his teammates was Brewers special assistant Craig Counsell.

That's what happens when you bounce around. Gonzalez, known for his sure glove but also for having some pop in his bat -- he hit 23 homers for the Marlins in 2004 and for the Blue Jays and Braves in '10 -- has played for four teams in the past four seasons.

He spent the past two seasons with the Braves, who acquired Gonzalez and the prospect who would eventually take his job -- Tyler Pastornicky -- in a five-player swap with the Blue Jays. Atlanta declined to offer Gonzalez arbitration in November, a clear sign it was moving on.

Gonzalez picked the Brewers at the Winter Meetings, signing a one-year, $4.25 million deal, with a $3.5 million club option for 2013. If Gonzalez makes 525 plate appearances in '12, that option will vest at $4 million.

The pitching staff, the Brewers figure, should benefit from Gonzalez's arrival. Among qualifying hitters in the National League, only Betancourt had a lower on-base percentage than Gonzalez's .270, but he was third in the league with a .981 fielding percentage. Only Tulowitzki and Philadelphia's Jimmy Rollins rated better in that basic defensive measure.

The more advanced metrics, including FanGraphs.com's Ultimate Zone Rating, put Gonzalez in the middle of the NL pack. All agree he is a defensive upgrade over Betancourt.

"He's a smart player, so he knows where to position himself," Brewers manager Ron Roenicke said. "He's got range, he's got good hands and he's got a nice arm. I know with the age, maybe he's not what he was 10 years ago. But he's still really good."

Said Gonzalez: "That is my priority, to help my team on defense. I do the best I can with my bat. If you play good defense, you can play a lot of games."

The Brewers also pursued free agent Clint Barmes, who got a two-year deal from the Pirates, and Rollins, who wound up re-signing with the Phillies.

The Brewers made a strong play for Rollins, making it clear to agent Dan Lozano that they would be willing to offer a four-year deal. But Lozano was busy with another high-profile free-agent client, Albert Pujols, and the Brewers decided they couldn't wait to address the offensive void left by Prince Fielder. They shifted focus to third baseman Aramis Ramirez and signed him in mid-December.

Rollins, as expected, re-signed with Philadelphia.

"That would have changed our offseason dramatically," Melvin said.

It also could have changed the franchise's immediate future. The Brewers admit they are relatively thin at shortstop in the Minor Leagues, where Edwin Maysonet is slated for Triple-A Nashville and organizational newcomer Jeff Bianchi could go to Double-A Huntsville.

The Brewers like two of their prospects: Orlando Arcia, who spent last season in the Dominican Summer League and is at Maryvale Baseball Park for Spring Training, and Yadiel Rivera, a ninth-round Draft pick in 2010 who ranked 12th on MLB.com's list of the Top 20 Brewers prospects. Rivera topped out at Rookie level Helena last season. Both players are years away from the big leagues.

Gonzalez turned 35 shortly before reporting to Spring Training. He's already appeared in three postseasons and is hoping to add to that list.

"A lot of players go a whole career and never get there," Gonzalez said. "I've been lucky. I want to get to the World Series again, and I think we have a chance."
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: kburjr on March 08, 2012, 04:11:54 PM
Who's got the best pitching staff in the NL Center?

I have to be a homer here.  #1 I think that Greinke os a #1 pitcher. He had 9 wins, sub3.00ERA after the All=Star break last year and his advanced metrics all point to an ace type pitcher. #2 It's a race to who breaks down first, Marcum or Carpenter. #2A Wainwright is coming back but is he really? #3 Gallardo or Garcia?  #4 Wolf or Loshe?  I'll take wolf without Duncan to prop up Loshe. Brewers have netter bullpen hands down.

Cincy doesn't have the depth at starter, Pittsburgh doesn't have period and the Cubs and Astros will be lucky to have a 10 win pitcher on the staff
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 09, 2012, 09:44:30 AM
PHOENIX -- A former teammate of Zack Greinke's phoned twice on Wednesday. It was annoying.

It was a pitch to consider that player's agent, variations of which Greinke has heard ad nauseam since news broke that he was the biggest free-agent-to-be working without representation. When his phone rang, Greinke didn't pick up.

"I knew that's what he was calling for," Greinke said. "Then, he called a second time and I said, 'All right, I'll answer.' I knew what he wanted, but we wasted 20 minutes beating around the bush, talking about nonsense, which, with him, I don't mind it that much. But that's the annoying part -- I knew what we were getting to. It just took forever to get to it."
   
When they did get to it, Greinke politely said the same thing he told reporters following his first Cactus League start on Thursday: He doesn't plan to hire an agent until the end of the season.

"That's been the plan the whole time," Greinke said. "Nothing has changed."

Greinke did leave the door wide open to altering the schedule if he and the Brewers engage in talks about a contract extension. He genuinely likes pitching in a Brewers uniform, calls principal owner Mark Attanasio "the best owner out there," and says he enjoys small-market Milwaukee.

The right-hander is also very aware of the market for 28-year-old starting pitchers with 3.82 ERA and a Cy Young Award on his mantle. At some point, Brewers general manager Doug Melvin plans to approach Greinke with a proposal, perhaps one in the neighborhood of the five-year, $80 million deal the Tigers and Justin Verlander reached a year ago. The difference is that Verlander was two years shy of free agency, and Greinke is only one.

Greinke expressed a very open mind about his options: Entertain an extension, or wait to test free agency.

"Free agency, I think it could be kind of neat," he said. "There could be positives to it, and then there could be negatives. It's not like everyone who gets to free agency, it ends up working perfectly for them and everything comes true that they want. Sometimes it ends up backfiring on you, and you would have been better off signing with the team."

Greinke called all of this talk premature, but if unresolved on Opening Day, his soon-to-expire contract figures to be a topic all season. He was asked whether he'll come up with some stock answers, and Greinke wanted to know who's asking.

Media?

"There's nothing to tell you guys," Greinke said.

Fans?

"Probably just ignore them," he said, grinning.

Like always?

"Not always," Greinke said, before conceding: "A lot of times."

As usual, none of this was said with malice. It was just Greinke being himself; smart, challenging, dead honest. Example: He's baseball's most famous amateur scout, but has had to learn to keep an open mind. Greinke figured former Brewer Prince Fielder was too big to hit, and that Boston's Dustin Pedroia was too small to play. In both cases, Greinke concedes he was wrong.

"I've tried not to write people off," he quipped, "like I used to."

On the mound, he's the same old Greinke. Making his first spring start Thursday after appearing four days earlier in relief, Greinke struck out the first four hitters he faced and wound up allowing two runs -- one earned -- on three successive hits in the second inning. His stuff was so sharp that veteran plate umpire Bob Davidson walked over to Brewers manager Ron Roenicke and said, "Zack's ready."

"I think he really likes where he is," Roenicke said. "He really likes the guys on this club that he deals with, [who are] in his world. That makes a big difference to Zack. ... As long as he's happy and progressing the way he is, we look for him to have another great year."


Let's hope this doesn't become a distraction
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 14, 2012, 03:34:07 PM
I get to spend the next few days going to some spring training games, including a trip up to Vegas.

I know, you're jealous
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 14, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
I get to spend the next few days going to some spring training games, including a trip up to Vegas.

I know, you're jealous

Right you are don.  My daughter is flying out to AZ tomorrow to spend a long weekend with some school day chums and plan on attending the Drop Kick Murphys concert.........on St Paddy's Day mind you so I told her to bring bail money.

Oh yeah, btw, her friend is also taking her to a Brewers game as well....................that little minx.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 14, 2012, 06:26:35 PM
Right you are don.  My daughter is flying out to AZ tomorrow to spend a long weekend with some school day chums and plan on attending the Drop Kick Murphys concert.........on St Paddy's Day mind you so I told her to bring bail money.

Oh yeah, btw, her friend is also taking her to a Brewers game as well....................that little minx.

Yep, Arizona is a wonderful place this time of year. And I'm sure she'll torture you with game updates and pictures.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 14, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
Yep, Arizona is a wonderful place this time of year. And I'm sure she'll torture you with game updates and pictures.


HAHA, let's hope so.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 15, 2012, 12:39:12 AM

HAHA, let's hope so.

I guess there's a lot worse things she could be doing on Spring break
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 15, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Well,  I hope this board will heat up soon.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Bernie82 on March 16, 2012, 11:10:35 AM
Not a whole lot to say right now.  We have all seen enough spring trainings to know the results don't say much.  The rosters are all pretty much locked in.  No real major injuries.
If anything, the spring has reinforced my thoughts going in -- the World still thinks the Brewers cannot compete without Fielder, the Cards are old and gimpy, the Reds can't pitch.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 16, 2012, 12:32:05 PM

PROJECTED ROTATION:

1. RHP Yovani Gallardo

2. RHP Zack Greinke

3. RHP Shaun Marcum

4. LHP Randy Wolf

5. LHP Chris Narveson

With all five starters returning from 2011, the Brewers are in fantastic shape entering camp. Each pitcher recorded double figures in victories last season, so their jobs are secure barring health issues.

RHP Marco Estrada proved to be a valuable swing man last year, filling in capably when Greinke and Narveson went down because of injuries. Estrada is expected to fill that role again this season, and should further depth be necessary, the Brewers will look to two prospects, RHPs Wily Peralta and Michael Fiers.

PROJECTED BULLPEN:

RHP John Axford (closer)

RHP Francisco Rodriguez

RHP Jose Veras

RHP Kameron Loe

RHP Marco Estrada

LHP Manny Parra

Not many teams have two accomplished closers at the back of their bullpen. Rodriguez complained about not getting closing chances after coming from the Mets last season, but accepted the Brewers' salary arbitration offer afterward, so he knows his role will not change.

Veras and Loe probably will share seventh inning duties. Estrada provides middle relief when necessary as well as spot starts, making him a valuable pitcher on the staff. Parra is expected to battle with LHP Zach Braddock to give something the Brewers didn't have for most of the second half of 2011, a left-hander in the bullpen.

PROJECTED LINEUP:

1. RF Corey Hart

2. CF Nyjer Morgan

3. LF Ryan Braun

4. 3B Aramis Ramirez

5. 2B Rickie Weeks

6. 1B Mat Gamel

7. SS Alex Gonzalez

8. C Jonathan Lucroy

Weeks has been a leadoff hitter much of his career, but will be counted on for run production now that 1B Prince Fielder is gone. The Brewers expect Ramirez to make up for some of that lost production and believe Gamel is ready to prove he can be a regular player in the majors.



Not too bad
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 20, 2012, 06:42:17 AM
SURPRISE, Ariz. (AP) - Milwaukee's Norichika Aoki upstaged fellow Japanese newcomer Yu Darvish on Monday afternoon.

Aoki had three hits, including a triple, and drove in three runs Monday as the Brewers rallied past the Texas Rangers 5-3.

Aoki hit an RBI single in the second off Darvish, then tied the game at 3 in the sixth when he tripled to score Alex Gonzalez and George Kottaras. Aoki came home on Cesar Izturis' squeeze bunt.

Coming in, Aoki had been 4 for 28 during spring training.

"He needed to have that game just so he could get back on track," Brewers manager Ron Roenicke said. "I know he's been pressing and has been trying to do well for us. This has to make him feel good."

Roenicke told Aoki last week not to put too much pressure on himself.

"It's just an honor to have a conversation with him," Aoki said through an interpreter. "Playing in a different environment it helped me relax and calm down."

Making his third start, Darvish allowed one hit and three walks in four innings with four strikeouts and a hit batter.

Aoki and the Brewers were able to capitalize on Darvish's inconsistency.

Travis Ishikawa led off the second with a walk, and Darvish hit Jonathan Lucroy in the back with a fastball that appeared to slip out of his hand. Aoki, who said he was 0 for 4 against Darvish in Japan, followed with a single that pulled the Brewers to 2-1.

Aoki singled again in the fifth, and he tripled in the sixth against Joe Nathan.

"He's a great hitter," Darvish said through an interpreter. "He's always been a great hitter. The Brewers have a lot of tough hittersm and he seems to be just like one of them."

Darvish, who retired the side in order in the first and third, walked a pair of hitters in the fourth. He escaped trouble when he induced Lucroy into an broken-bat, inning-ending double play on a two-seam fastball inside.

"A few weeks ago, I couldn't even throw that for a strike," Darvish said. "Today, throwing that pitch in that situation and getting a ground ball when I needed one was a relief."

Fastball command remained an issue for Darvish, who threw only 39 of 70 pitches for strikes.

"Every spring I'm usually not sharp," Darvish said. "I think my situation right now at this time, I don't see much difference from previous springs. The way my body's working and my delivery, I'm not able to repeat right now. These are the things I'm going to work on polishing."

Rickie Weeks struck out twice against Darvish.

"I'm not the guy to talk to for all this praise, but he's a great pitcher," Weeks said.

Darvish is slated to pitch in an intrasquad game Sunday rather than travel to Tempe to face the Los Angeles Angels.

Brewers starter Randy Wolf gave up three runs, 10 hits and two walks in five innings with four strikeouts.

Elvis Andrus had three hits, including two off Wolf. Kentrail Davis homered for Milwaukee.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 22, 2012, 01:45:44 PM
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Mr. Baseball is getting a statue outside Miller Park, begging the question: What the heck took so long?

"I didn't have enough for the down payment," Bob Uecker said.

The 77-year-old Brewers broadcaster, star of television and film and all-around funnyman, will be immortalized in bronze on Aug. 31. He'll stand on Miller Park's home plate plaza alongside the three other members of the Mount Rushmore of Milwaukee baseball: Hank Aaron, Robin Yount and MLB Commissioner Allan H. "Bud" Selig.
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Uecker will be depicted casually, with his hands in his pockets, just like the thousands of times he's stood around the Brewers' batting cage since taking a broadcasting job with the team in 1972. Selig moved Uecker from the scouting apartment to the booth, the story goes, because Uecker's reports arrived covered in mashed potatoes and gravy.

Forty years later, the light-hitting catcher-turned-broadcaster-turned actor is a baseball icon.

"It's going to be there forever and ever," Uecker said.

Seriously, it's a huge honor.

"My family, my friends, are all excited about it," Uecker said. "I'm honored, and I'm pleased with it. I thank the whole organization. [Principal owner] Mark Attanasio. The players. Who are we as broadcasters without the guys who make the game to call and make the games exciting? I hope the fans have enjoyed listening as much as I've enjoyed doing the games.

"I don't think I've ever gone to the park where I've had a bad day."

He paused.

"Discounting playing," Uecker added. "A lot of bad days there."

So much for a moment of seriousness amid Uecker's usual deadpan. Asked how they would keep pigeons away, he said, "We're going to invite pigeons. We are. That's the other enhancement, I'm holding a stand. It's a feeder-type thing."

Before a Brewers spokesperson arrived to tell the straight story, Uecker was asked what the statue will look like.

"Kind of a Schwarzenegger-type thing," he said. "Beefcake. Speedos. Pretty buffed. It's really enhanced. I've seen pictures of the finished product, and, yes, I'm very pleased, as a matter of a fact. It's drawing a lot of attention. More than that swimsuit issue."

Uecker was referring to a 2008 Sports Illustrated photo, in which he appeared to the side wearing a skimpy swimsuit. He has since dubbed it, "My swimsuit issue."

Chalk it up among Uecker's accolades.

Born in Milwaukee in 1935, Uecker signed with his hometown Braves in 1956 and made his Major League debut in '62, the first of his six seasons in the big leagues with the Braves, Phillies and Cardinals. The '64 Cardinals won the World Series, but Uecker didn't appear in that postseason. The trainer, he jokes, injected him with hepatitis to help the Cardinals' chances.

Uecker's big break came in 1969, when he appeared on stage in Atlanta with jazz trumpeter Al Hirt, who later arranged for Uecker to make the first of some 100 appearances on "The Tonight Show" with Johnny Carson. Those appearances led to other television gigs, including turns hosting "Saturday Night Live" and "Wrestlemania," two syndicated talk shows and a role on "Mr. Belvedere," a sitcom that spanned 122 episodes.

He also appeared in a popular series of Miller Lite commercials, never quite able to make it to the front row. In 1989 he starred as Indians radio voice Harry Doyle in the film "Major League," Uecker's best-known role.

Put all together, Uecker is in the National Baseball Hall of Fame as the 2003 Ford C. Frick Award Winner, in the Brewers' Walk of Fame, the Radio Hall of Fame, the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Hall of Fame, the Wisconsin Sports Hall of Fame and the World Wrestling Entertainment Hall of Fame. An avid bratwurst enthusiast, he's also in the Wisconsin Meat Industry Hall of Fame.

On April 17, Uecker will be inducted into the National Association of Broadcasters Broadcasting Hall of Fame in Las Vegas.

Not bad for a guy with a .200 lifetime batting average.

"The joy that Bob has brought to us over the years is priceless, and with 2012 being the 50th anniversary of his first Major League game, there's no better time than now to celebrate his achievements," Attanasio said in a statement. "Bob represents everything that is good about Milwaukee and Wisconsin. He is an iconic figure for the franchise, and his passion for the Brewers is second to none.

"Bob is a national treasure who calls Wisconsin home. I'm proud to have him as a great friend. I couldn't be happier to add this statue to his legacy." Uecker's statue is being designed and produced by Brian Maughan, who, with Douglas Kwart, also created the Aaron, Selig and Yount statues. As fans approach Miller Park, they will see from right to left, Uecker, Aaron, Yount and Selig.

The Brewers have been planning Uecker's statue for more than a year. Uecker was measured at "Brewers On Deck" in January 2010, a year that turned tumultuous. He underwent two very serious heart surgeries and missed a significant number of games for the first time in 19 years.

But on the day he was measured, Uecker was in good spirits. He told the sculptor to send his measurements to the Schramka Funeral Home in Milwaukee, "'cause I'm not doing this again."

He kids, he kids.

"When you realize that something is going to be there as long as Solomon Juneau," said Uecker, referring to a Milwaukee founder whose statue rises 15 feet on bluff at the city's lakefront, "it's a pretty neat thing."


It's about time if you ask me.  Congrats Uke
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 23, 2012, 08:40:23 PM
Now's the point in the spring where I just wish real games would start. I wanna see Dempster face Strasburg on opening day already
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on March 23, 2012, 09:15:37 PM
Now's the point in the spring where I just wish real games would start. I wanna see Dempster face Strasburg on opening day already
rofl  It's almost here !
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 25, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
Now's the point in the spring where I just wish real games would start. I wanna see Dempster face Strasburg on opening day already


That should be a great match up.  Personally, I am looking forward to Gallardo vs Wainwright
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 25, 2012, 02:15:31 PM
Now's the point in the spring where I just wish real games would start. I wanna see Dempster face Strasburg on opening day already


That should be a great match up.  Personally, I am looking forward to Gallardo vs Wainwright

I thought the Cardinals had announced Kyle Loshe as their opening day starter?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: kburjr on March 26, 2012, 02:49:54 AM
Cards are playing Miami Opening Day I believe
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 26, 2012, 05:56:06 AM
I thought the Cardinals had announced Kyle Loshe as their opening day starter?

I hadn't heard that.  I assumed (wrong I know) that with Waino returning from TJS, it would be a toss up between him and Carpenter.  With the latest news that Carpenter is shelved indefinitely, for now at least, it would come down to Waino.

Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 26, 2012, 05:56:58 AM
Cards are playing Miami Opening Day I believe

If that is the case, there's going to be around 44K pissed off Brewers fans  :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 26, 2012, 01:34:42 PM
I hadn't heard that.  I assumed (wrong I know) that with Waino returning from TJS, it would be a toss up between him and Carpenter.  With the latest news that Carpenter is shelved indefinitely, for now at least, it would come down to Waino.

Apparently they haven't named a starter, I had just read speculation that it could be Loshe
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 26, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
Apparently they haven't named a starter, I had just read speculation that it could be Loshe

No matter.  I look for the Brewers to roll through that series..........................least that is what I hope.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 27, 2012, 07:07:26 PM
And one of the worst parts is that tonight's(?) game is just going to wet my pallet. And yes, me and my roommate from Seattle are getting up to watch the game at 3 am.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 27, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
And one of the worst parts is that tonight's(?) game is just going to wet my pallet. And yes, me and my roommate from Seattle are getting up to watch the game at 3 am.

You're a far better man than I sir. 

Good luck to them
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 28, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
If it's any consolation, I feel asleep about 4 times during the course of the game
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 28, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
oh, and packerzrule, I assume you don't mind/encourage if I invite respectable, knowledgeable cub fans here, correct?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 29, 2012, 07:05:55 AM
oh, and packerzrule, I assume you don't mind/encourage if I invite respectable, knowledgeable cub fans here, correct?

Please do don.  The more the merrier. 
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 29, 2012, 07:07:20 AM
The Brewers had only two serious health issues as the end of camp neared. RF Corey Hart had arthroscopic knee surgery early in camp and RHP Shaun Marcum was set back by shoulder inflammation but both were making solid progress and hoped to open the season on the active roster. The Brewers were still trying to round out the middle of their bullpen, with RHP Tim Dillard and LHP Manny Parra each getting a foot in the door. The pitching looked solid enough to contend for another NL Central title but the offense was spotty at best in exhibition play.

ROTATION:

1. RHP Yovani Gallardo

2. RHP Zack Greinke

3. LHP Randy Wolf

4. RHP Shaun Marcum

5. LHP Chris Narveson

The question mark as the end of camp neared was Marcum, who was set back early in camp by shoulder inflammation that put him two weeks behind the other starters.

Gallardo and Greinke are in essence co-aces, either capable of being the No. 1 pitcher in the rotation. Manager Ron Roenicke is giving the honor to Gallardo because he was the Opening Day pitcher the past two seasons and ended the 2011 season throwing the ball as well or better as any time during his career.

BULLPEN:

RHP John Axford (closer)

RHP Francisco Rodriguez
RHP Jose Veras

RHP Kameron Loe

RHP Marco Estrada

LHP Manny Parra

RHP Tim Dillard

Axford and Rodriguez in essence give the Brewers co-closers, with "K-Rod" slated to handle the eighth inning as he did last season after being acquired from the Mets at the All-Star break. Veras, acquired from Pittsburgh in an offseason trade, was throwing the ball well enough in camp for manager Ron Roenicke to tab him as his seventh-inning pitcher.

Parra and Dillard were battling for the final two spots in the bullpen with the likes of LHP Zach Braddock and RHP Mike McClendon. Parra and Dillard had an edge in part because they are out of minor league options. Estrada is a swing man who fills in for starters when they have health issues, as he did for Greinke and Narveson in 2011.

LINEUP:

1. 2B Rickie Weeks

2. CF Nyjer Morgan

3. LF Ryan Braun

4. 3B Aramis Ramirez

5. RF Corey Hart

6. 1B Mat Gamel

7. SS Alex Gonzalez

8. C Jonathan Lucroy

Manager Ron Roenicke will have to make an adjustment if Hart isn't ready to open the season on time after undergoing minor knee surgery early in camp. In that event, Weeks might move down to the five-hole.

It will be interesting to see how opponents pitch to Braun now that former cleanup hitter Prince Fielder is gone. Ramirez won't be seen as nearly as dangerous, especially to right-handed hitters, and Braun thus could see fewer pitches to hit. Gamel has good pop but Roenicke doesn't want to put pressure on him in his first year as a starter.

RESERVES:

C George Kottaras

INF Cesar Izturis

INF Brooks Conrad

OF Carlos Gomez

OF Norichika Aoki

Barring a late move before Opening Day, Izturis was guaranteed a roster spot as the only legitimate backup to SS Alex Gonzalez. Conrad made himself valuable as a switch-hitter who can play every infield spot except shortstop and also fill in as an outfielder if necessary.

Gomez will start in center against most left-handed pitchers. Aoki was a regular in Japan but it will be difficult for him to find a lot of playing time, barring injuries. Kottaras was more or less the personal catcher for LHP Randy Wolf in 2011 and probably will be so again.






I like the team the way it is heading into the season and believe they will suprise a lot of people.



Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 29, 2012, 02:38:53 PM
As of right now, I'm picking the Brewers to win the central. Carpenter and Madson's injuries are killer.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 29, 2012, 04:44:39 PM
As of right now, I'm picking the Brewers to win the central. Carpenter and Madson's injuries are killer.

You display wisdom beyond your years  :)

Aside from the homer vote, I do agree.  Had both been healthy, it was a veritable crap shoot on what team would come out on top
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 30, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
Cubs opening day lineup looks to be:
1. DeJesus 2. Barney 3. Castro 4. LaHair 5. Soriano 6. Stewart 7. Byrd 8. Soto 9. Dempster

Offensive juggernaut
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 30, 2012, 06:06:18 PM
Cubs opening day lineup looks to be:
1. DeJesus 2. Barney 3. Castro 4. LaHair 5. Soriano 6. Stewart 7. Byrd 8. Soto 9. Dempster

Offensive juggernaut

Believe it or not, I am sad to see Cubs diminished to a shell of their former self.  I was really enjoying what was becoming a solid rivalry between them and the Crew.  Don't get me wrong, they are still division rivals and have always played the Brewers tough, but it seems the clubs are going in opposite directions.

I think you can hang your hat on getting a new GM, a knowledgeable and fundamentally sound skipper and do have some good players in place of which to build the organization on.  I really like that Castro kid - he is the real deal.

Good luck for the season don and I hope you will be successful in bringing some of your comrades over for some good ole fashioned "smack" sessions.

Omnipotent thread?   Ah,  the good old days!

Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on March 30, 2012, 06:12:17 PM
Believe it or not, I am sad to see Cubs diminished to a shell of their former self.  I was really enjoying what was becoming a solid rivalry between them and the Crew.  Don't get me wrong, they are still division rivals and have always played the Brewers tough, but it seems the clubs are going in opposite directions.

I think you can hang your hat on getting a new GM, a knowledgeable and fundamentally sound skipper and do have some good players in place of which to build the organization on.  I really like that Castro kid - he is the real deal.

Good luck for the season don and I hope you will be successful in bringing some of your comrades over for some good ole fashioned "smack" sessions.

Omnipotent thread?   Ah,  the good old days!


And its on !!!!   :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on March 30, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
Believe it or not, I am sad to see Cubs diminished to a shell of their former self.  I was really enjoying what was becoming a solid rivalry between them and the Crew.  Don't get me wrong, they are still division rivals and have always played the Brewers tough, but it seems the clubs are going in opposite directions.

I think you can hang your hat on getting a new GM, a knowledgeable and fundamentally sound skipper and do have some good players in place of which to build the organization on.  I really like that Castro kid - he is the real deal.

Good luck for the season don and I hope you will be successful in bringing some of your comrades over for some good ole fashioned "smack" sessions.

Omnipotent thread?   Ah,  the good old days!


Thanks, yeah the Cubs will get good again. Eventually.

Yeah, those Omnipotent Threads were interesting, since for the most part the majority of the posts were at night, all the regulars ended up being all around the same age 16-23. There's a couple of them I still talk to outside of the boards.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 31, 2012, 08:03:24 AM
Thanks, yeah the Cubs will get good again. Eventually.

Yeah, those Omnipotent Threads were interesting, since for the most part the majority of the posts were at night, all the regulars ended up being all around the same age 16-23. There's a couple of them I still talk to outside of the boards.

16 - 23?!  Hell,  I have fillings older than that   :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: BowlorBust2012 on April 01, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
What's up guys.  First post on here, looking forward to some great debates, conversations, and rivalries.  Just to get it out of the way, avid Brewers fan here, "recruited" by Packerzrule from another site we both frequented (insert midget porn jokes here). 

Looking forward to the season getting under way, and HOPEFULLY, another division championship for the team who's team, stadium, and city is devoted to the nectar of the gods.....BEER!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: BowlorBust2012 on April 01, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
And as I'm poking around this site getting acquainted..... wth are NGS bucks? 
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Fog on April 01, 2012, 10:00:18 PM
Click on the shop button above buy some items...
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Mercury on April 02, 2012, 03:24:40 AM
Fog , I don't see any matching chicken feet ( wanted to gift that to BTR), will settle for a chicken pot pie though!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Mercury on April 02, 2012, 03:26:04 AM
I shouldn't be here ..a Phillies fan, my bad...Go Phillies Go!!!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 02, 2012, 06:11:08 AM
And as I'm poking around this site getting acquainted..... wth are NGS bucks? 

Not sure.  I think at one time, you could redeem it for merchandise that was purchased by some of the site admins.  I am still learning my way around this site as well so probably wouldn't be that good of a resource for you yet.  In the mean time, you can message 44diesels or greenblood.  They are good people and will gladly help whenever they can.  I'm sure there are others to help as well.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 02, 2012, 06:15:44 AM
PHOENIX -- The Brewers have their entire pitching staff back, and five of their eight positional starters from a team that won a franchise-record 96 regular-season games and the National League Central.

Yet they enter the season as underdogs. Most national prognosticators like the Cardinals, the defending World Series champions, even without Albert Pujols. Or the Reds and their retooled pitching staff. The Brewers appear a solid third.

Perhaps that has something to do with Prince Fielder wearing a Tigers uniform these days.

"That's what it is," said Milwaukee left-hander Randy Wolf. "That's all it is."

Fielder does leave a big hole on the stat sheet: Two hundred home runs in six seasons and change with the Brewers, plus 656 RBIs. A trio of top-four finishes in NL MVP balloting. A fixture in the cleanup spot and at first base.

But while Fielder gets ready for life in the American League, the Brewers enter life without him expecting to contend. General manager Doug Melvin replaced Fielder in the lineup with NL Central lifer Aramis Ramirez, the former Pirates and Cubs third baseman. Replacing Fielder at first base is Mat Gamel, the 26-year-old longtime prospect.

Together, the Brewers argue they could get equal or better production from their corner infielders than they received last season, when third baseman Casey McGehee struggled. They could also improve defensively at those positions, and at shortstop, where Alex Gonzalez takes over for Yuniesky Betancourt.

An improved defense would benefit the pitching staff, with all five starters returning including Zack Greinke and Shaun Marcum in contract years. Closer John Axford is coming off a club-record 46 saves, and Francisco Rodriguez returns as baseball's most accomplished setup man.

At least that's the thinking. Whether the formula works will be determined over 162 regular season games, and the Cardinals and Reds and the rest of the NL Central will have their own say.

"I think our team's a pretty good, all-around team," said Greinke, the straight-shooting starter. "We don't have the best pitching staff in baseball, the best bullpen in baseball. We don't have the best anything, but we're solid at everything.

"Our defense is solid; better than last year, I think. Our offense is solid; maybe about the same as last year. We'll see. Everything is slightly above average, across the board, and that's our strength, I think. Nothing's going to carry us, I think."

There are several keys to the Brewers' offseason makeover.

On the pitching side, it could be Jose Veras, the mountainous right-hander acquired from the Pirates for McGehee. He comes off a career year (3.80 ERA, career-high 79 appearances, 27 holds) to fill a seventh-inning role handled capably in the second half of 2011 by veterans LaTroy Hawkins and Takashi Saito. Veras will be the primary bridge from the Brewers' solid rotation to Rodriguez and Axford.

On the offensive side, eyes are on NL MVP Ryan Braun, who is bidding to bounce back from a winter spent beating a drug suspension. His success may depend partly on the hitter behind him, Ramirez, who will not be Fielder, but will be counted on to produce.

Ramirez has batted .300 or better in six seasons, has topped 90 RBIs eight times and 25 or more home runs nine times. The Brewers focused on him early in the offseason and signed Ramirez to a three-year deal.

"They've got the key, and that's pitching," Ramirez said of his decision to sign. "They've got five solid starters."

Greinke sees the Brewers at least seven starters deep. Yovani Gallardo, Greinke, Wolf, Shaun Marcum and Chris Narveson are all back, as is swingman Marco Estrada. The seventh arm is top prospect Wily Peralta, who floundered in 2011 Spring Training, but responded by going 11-7 with a 3.17 ERA between Double-A Huntsville and Triple-A Nashville.

"I think our pitching is good enough to [overcome an offensive dip], and I think defensively, we'll save some more runs," Milwaukee manager Ron Roenicke said. "It's not so much how many you drive in, you just have to score more than they do."

And the offense?

"I think it's basically what we had last year, but we're more solid in the fifth spot if Corey [Hart] is going to be there," Roenicke said. "You subtract Prince from it, but add Aramis, which I like. I like what Aramis is doing.

"We're not going to replace Prince. But there are other things we can do to make up for the loss of what we [got] from him. Aramis is a very good hitter. I really like him in the fourth spot. But it's not fair to say, 'Well, he's got to his 40-some homers.' He's not that guy."

Will he be enough, considering the Brewers' other pieces? The prognosticators don't seem to think so.

By October, we'll know if they were right to focus on Fielder.

"They shouldn't," outfielder Nyjer Morgan said. "But it's all good. We'll fly under the radar at 9,999 feet. We'll go undercover and do what we're supposed to do. We have a solid unit."
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: BowlorBust2012 on April 02, 2012, 11:55:50 AM
Typically, I like Mike Hunt (and yes, for those of you outside the Milwaukee area, that is the actual name of one of the major sports reporters for the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel.) but I don't agree with his "in my opinion" piece in this mornings paper on Braun.  Being a Milwaukee guy, he should be helping to put this story to rest, not helping to keep it on the forefront......even if his article was about what he felt Braun should do to put this behind him.  Kind of the chicken and the egg... He wants this behind us, but he writes about putting it behind us, so that puts it directly in front of us again.  I'll copy and paste the article below.  This is from Mike Hunt of JSonline.com




"The Brewers open the season Friday. Along with the usual festivities, St. Louis pitchers are going to pound Ryan Braun inside with impunity unless the leadoff hitters can do a little something about it by getting on base.

Then the Brewers are going to Wrigley Field, where Braun will hear the first of many times just how much opposing fans object to him being free to swing a bat and stand out there in left.

This is just the beginning of the trial by fire that 2012 is going to be for Braun, so you've got to wonder:

Why is the guy making it harder on himself from the start?

Just the other day, after the Los Angeles Dodgers and their supporters were doing their best to simulate regular-season conditions for him, Braun was given yet another chance to explain his side of the story regarding Major League Baseball's only positive-drug-test overturn.

"It's over, man," he said. "I'm not going to back into it. It's not good for baseball, it's not good for us, it's not good for me, it's not good for anybody."

And that would have been an ideal way for Braun to have ended that portion of the interview.

Instead, he went on for another couple of hundred words, revisiting the shadowy tones with which he occasionally tints his speech whenever the topic arises. Such as . . . "The people that are close to me - my friends, my family - know the truth."

You can appreciate that Braun is willing take questions, however repetitive and occasionally pointless they have become. Yet, how it is helping him to respond in such a way is beyond me.

He will have enough problems besides not hitting in front of Prince Fielder anymore. Why compound the challenge to come by allowing his critics to jump all over his story as if it were a hanging curveball?

By being so actively evasive and coy about a story that somehow needs to be put to rest, Braun is only giving his detractors more ammunition to assume he's hiding something.

It is almost as if Braun wants "the real story" as he perceives it to emerge, but not from him. He has already floated the conspiracy theory, but so far nothing has stuck to the person who handled his urine sample. In fact, that line of defense is looking less relevant with the passage of time.

As well as Braun handled himself at his first news conference, in retrospect maybe he would have been better off by not mentioning others at all.

So unless a lawsuit is going to be filed by Braun, what harm would come from him telling the story as he sees it? It's true, no matter what he says, the verbal firestorms that are about to emanate from Wrigley and beyond won't be quelled, no matter what Braun says.

Still, he's down to two choices with this episode. Say nothing at all or completely open up in an effort to explain there was more to his exoneration than a third arbitrator allowing him to avoid a 50-game suspension on a technicality.

Braun said he was "tempted" to reveal more, but he is not doing so for concern that it would cause an even bigger story. He also said that full disclosure on his part "really wouldn't do any good."

Unless he's got something to rival alien autopsies at Area 51, I'm not sure how the story could get bigger than it will be next Monday in Chicago, where the ears of baseball will be gathered to hear the reaction from one of the Brewers' biggest rivals.

A simple explanation from Braun might even help.

As for no good coming from Braun opening up, Brewers fans, who, for the most part are prepared to support him unconditionally, would still like to hear what he has to substantively say on the matter. It is possible some good could come from that."
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 02, 2012, 12:02:53 PM
unfortunately,  stories like this are going to follow Braun around throughout the season - especially in the local papers of the teams the Brewers play against

Braunie needs to stay focused and have just an "average" year to shut the naysayers up.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 02, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
I need to find some Cub fans for here fast or else I'm going to get overwhelmed with Brewer talk :P
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 02, 2012, 08:58:41 PM
I need to find some Cub fans for here fast or else I'm going to get overwhelmed with Brewer talk :P

Get some of those rat bastages,  um I mean friends of yours over here brother so we can have some spirited banter   lsab
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 03, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
GLENDALE, Ariz. -- The reigning Miss America will throw a ceremonial first pitch before the Brewers' Opening Day game, part of festivities announced by the club on Monday.

Milwaukee's season opener is Friday against the Cardinals at Miller Park. Yovani Gallardo is scheduled to throw his first pitch at 3:10 p.m. CT.

First, Laura Kaeppeler, a native of Kenosha, Wis., will throw out the first pitch and Joseph Attanasio, the father of Brewers principal owner Mark Attanasio, will follow tradition by singing the national anthem. Kaeppeler will return to perform God Bless America during the seventh inning stretch.
The Miller Park lots will open at noon on Friday, and ballpark gates will open two hours before the first pitch.

Consistent with recent years, the Brewers have arranged for overflow parking at Wisconsin State Fair Park for Opening Day. In the likely event that Miller Park lots reach capacity, fans may take the 84th St. exit from I-94 and enter through gate No. 7. From there, they will see signage and staff directing them to the parking area. A $15 fee will cover vehicle parking, and shuttle services are free. Shuttle services are scheduled to begin at 12:30 p.m. CT and will run until approximately 90 minutes after the game.

Tickets for the home opener are sold out. Limited seating remains for Saturday's game and tickets are available for Easter Sunday's game against the Cardinals.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 04, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
PHOENIX -- On the first day of batting practice during his winter of discontent, the most talked-about player in baseball broke three windshields. Brewers left fielder Ryan Braun was hitting at Pepperdine University, where cars park in a lot over the left-field fence at their own risk. One unlucky Southern Californian was still in the driver's seat when Braun's baseball arrived.

That was in early February, and even if Braun's Cactus League stat line doesn't show it, his Brewers coaches and teammates have been insisting all spring that Braun brought the same power show to Spring Training. After watching from afar as Braun won the National League MVP Award, then fought -- and won -- an appeal of a drug suspension, those allies are convinced it will be business as usual come Opening Day.

"Have you seen his BPs?" Milwaukee manager Ron Roenicke said, using the universal shorthand for batting practice. "They're incredible."

Whether Braun turns his quality BPs into quality at-bats under the bright lights of the regular season will go a long way in determining whether the Brewers repeat as champions of the NL Central. They have essentially the same pitching staff but are missing Prince Fielder at the heart of the batting order. Braun is more pivotal a player than ever.

So on a sunny March morning at Maryvale Baseball Park, we watched Braun take batting practice.

Round 1 is about right field. Braun lines four straight pitches the opposite way to the gap, where Brewers pitchers mingle under the late-morning sun.

Rounds 2 and 3 are line drives to all fields. Third-base coach Ed Sedar's first pitch is wide and Braun takes it -- something he does at least once in every round -- then hits the next three pitches to right field, center and then left. Finally, on the final pitch of Round 3, Braun hammers a pitch over the left-field fence, where a lone guy with a baseball glove shags home runs.

In Round 4, that guy is busy. Braun hits three deep drives in one stretch, two that clear the left-field wall and one that strikes the center-field wall, 400 feet from home plate.

"He has as much power as ever," said right fielder Corey Hart, Braun's closest friend on the team.

"He's been the same to me -- still hitting the ball great in BP," second baseman Rickie Weeks said. "It's hard to ask anybody to repeat an MVP season, but I have no doubt that he's going to come out, play hard and have another great year."

Said catcher Jonathan Lucroy: "I guarantee you, when the bright lights come on, he's still Ryan Braun."

Braun has his eye on those bright lights.

"I'll be ready on April 6," he said.


So will the rest of us  :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: duckturtle79 on April 04, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
@ Donbedouin

I need to find some Cub fans for here fast or else I'm going to get overwhelmed with Brewer talk :P

Fear not, Don, I will provide some Cubs insight to this sad Brewer party.  It's interesting to see a few familiar names over here...the other site was just getting to tiresome.  It was becoming a struggle just to talk baseball.

As for baseball, I'm actually a bit torn about this being the Astros last year in the N.L. Central.  I enjoyed the rivalry between the Cubs and Astros.  Secondly, the Central will probably be weak this year (compared to the other divisions), but I think it will be a tight race between the top three teams.  And finally, I feel it's going to be a long year on the North side of Chicago.  Not enough offensive punch in the lineup, pitching looks shaky on paper, but I feel there are some surprises in store.

NL Central Predictions

Reds
Brewers
Cardinals
Pirates
Cubs
Astros
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 04, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
@ Donbedouin

Fear not, Don, I will provide some Cubs insight to this sad Brewer party.  It's interesting to see a few familiar names over here...the other site was just getting to tiresome.  It was becoming a struggle just to talk baseball.

As for baseball, I'm actually a bit torn about this being the Astros last year in the N.L. Central.  I enjoyed the rivalry between the Cubs and Astros.  Secondly, the Central will probably be weak this year (compared to the other divisions), but I think it will be a tight race between the top three teams.  And finally, I feel it's going to be a long year on the North side of Chicago.  Not enough offensive punch in the lineup, pitching looks shaky on paper, but I feel there are some surprises in store.

NL Central Predictions

Reds
Brewers
Cardinals
Pirates
Cubs
Astros

Good to see you Duck.  Don was getting a bit lonely I'm afraid  :)

Couple of thoughts.  I didn't know the Astros had a rivalry with any team - they sure hit the skids in a hurry...no??  As for not enough offensive punch,  I think the Cubs have an excellent core of talented young players that Sveum will get the most out of and will suprise a lot of folks this season.  Finally,  as hard as it is for me not to be a homer, I think the Brewers will repeat as Divisions Champs based soley on the strength of the SP and BP
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 04, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
Glad you could join us Duck
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 04, 2012, 06:55:22 PM
Oh and this hasn't been mentioned yet, but damn that Joey Votto contract is going to go on forever
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 05, 2012, 06:16:44 AM
PHOENIX -- The Brewers submitted their Opening Day roster to Major League Baseball on Wednesday morning and claimed Minor League right-hander Josh Stinson from the Mets, in essence filling the club's 40-man roster.

Besides adding Stinson, who will start the year in the Double-A Huntsville bullpen, the Brewers formally selected the contracts of infielder Cesar Izturis and first baseman/outfielder Travis Ishikawa, the two non-roster invitees to Spring Training who made the club. Those moves put 39 players on the 40-man roster. The Brewers are holding the opening for right-handed pitching prospect Mark Rogers, who will be suspended the first eight games of Triple-A Nashville's season under a 50-game penalty levied last season.

Stinson, 24, made 14 relief appearances in his first Major League stint for the Mets last season. He was a 37th round Draft pick in 2006 and has bounced between the starting rotation and the bullpen during his Minor League career, posting a 4.20 ERA in 192 games.

Brewers executive VP and GM Doug Melvin talks about Milwaukee's Spring Training and trying to sign Zack Greinke to a long-term deal

As expected, the Brewers' 25-man roster looks like this:

Pitchers (12): John Axford, Tim Dillard, Marco Estrada, Yovani Gallardo, Zack Greinke, Kameron Loe, Shaun Marcum, Chris Narveson, Manny Parra, Francisco Rodriguez, Jose Veras and Randy Wolf.

Catchers (2): George Kottaras and Jonathan Lucroy.

Infielders (6): Mat Gamel, Alex Gonzalez, Ishikawa, Izturis, Aramis Ramirez and Rickie Weeks.

Outfielders (5): Norichika Aoki, Ryan Braun, Carlos Gomez, Corey Hart and Nyjer Morgan.

Aoki, Dillard, Estrada, Gamel and Lucroy are on a Major League Opening Day roster for the first time.


Oh yeah baby - let's get this party started
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: duckturtle79 on April 05, 2012, 09:31:03 AM
Good to see you Duck.  Don was getting a bit lonely I'm afraid  :)

Couple of thoughts.  I didn't know the Astros had a rivalry with any team - they sure hit the skids in a hurry...no??  As for not enough offensive punch,  I think the Cubs have an excellent core of talented young players that Sveum will get the most out of and will suprise a lot of folks this season.  Finally,  as hard as it is for me not to be a homer, I think the Brewers will repeat as Divisions Champs based soley on the strength of the SP and BP

Things did head south mighty quickly for the Stros the last couple of years.  As for the Cubs, I believe the young talent is there just need a few more pieces before my optimism is restored to full vigor.

Are you counting out the Brewers' offense this year?  I picked the Reds but for whatever reason (Dusty Baker probably), I could see them not living up to expectations this year.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 05, 2012, 09:40:14 AM
I guess I should not have said "soley"  I think the combination of Ramirez, Gonzales and Gamel will at least equal the production of McGahee, Fielder and Bentancourt so they should be fine there.  Braun will be under tremendous pressure to, at the very least, put up respectable numbers so that bears watching.  I just don't think the loss of Fielder will have that much impact as most folks think.

The Reds??    As long as DB is the manager, I think they will always under achieve
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 05, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
And now for one of the worst parts about opening day: having to wait 2 days for another game
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 06, 2012, 05:58:00 AM
And now for one of the worst parts about opening day: having to wait 2 days for another game

A heartbreaker yesterday don. 
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 06, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Yeah, obviously the bullpen and offense will likely struggle all season, but I'm not going to be one to have yesterday's game worsen my outlook on either.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: epozz on April 07, 2012, 03:53:46 AM
Major Question: Joey Votto signs 10 year extension to stay in Cincinnati for basically the rest of his career, barring a trade request by Votto himself.

Based on past performance, did Joey deserve to get Pujols and Fielder money to stay?

My own feelings are yes, but being a Reds fan, I am kind of jaded on this subject. Plus I am also a huge Joey Votto fan also.

Any input is welcome, just be respectful.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 07, 2012, 03:34:59 PM
Major Question: Joey Votto signs 10 year extension to stay in Cincinnati for basically the rest of his career, barring a trade request by Votto himself.

Based on past performance, did Joey deserve to get Pujols and Fielder money to stay?

I think he certainly deserves the amount of annual value he's getting. But the years would scare the hell out of me, way too much can happen in 12 years. I'd have to imagine that the Reds think that player salaries are going to inflate quite a bit over that time.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: duckturtle79 on April 09, 2012, 12:12:29 PM
Major Question: Joey Votto signs 10 year extension to stay in Cincinnati for basically the rest of his career, barring a trade request by Votto himself.

Based on past performance, did Joey deserve to get Pujols and Fielder money to stay?

My own feelings are yes, but being a Reds fan, I am kind of jaded on this subject. Plus I am also a huge Joey Votto fan also.

Any input is welcome, just be respectful.

I applaud the Reds for being aggresive and making the effort to keep the face of their franchise.  Now, I agree with Don for the most part.  I suppose he's worth that kind of money.  The years scare the hell out of me especially since he'll be forty by time this deal ends (ala Soriano's final years with the Cubs).  But I think the biggest concern would be the potential financial strain that this could put on their payroll especially if the Reds can't increase payroll in the future.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 09, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
I think what most people are concerned with is the length of the contract and not the dollar amount - he is certainly worth what they paid him
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: duckturtle79 on April 10, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
I think what most people are concerned with is the length of the contract and not the dollar amount - he is certainly worth what they paid him

To be worth that much in anything has to be awesome.  I can only imagine the number of twinkies that man can buy now.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 10, 2012, 10:45:59 AM
I'm not even worth that much in pennies   nopity
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 11, 2012, 12:06:38 AM
I make on average $1.33 an hour for the job that I "officially" work.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 11, 2012, 04:42:02 PM
Wow.  The Crew is looking good this series.  Wish it could last for the next 156 games
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 11, 2012, 04:56:57 PM
Speaking of WOW.  Where in the hell did the Reds find that money tree?!  300MM to 2 players?   

Yowzer
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 11, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Wow.  The Crew is looking good this series.  Wish it could last for the next 156 games

And the Cubs are...well....not
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 12, 2012, 02:48:15 PM
Holy crap.  Greinke getting shelled!   WTF
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 13, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
well...........at least the Brewers took the series
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 17, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
EGAD   How the hell do the Brewers have the worst ERA in the Majors?!?!?!

I would have bet that with that starting rotation, there would be no way they would lose 4 games in a row.  Guess I would have lost that bet!

DAMNIT
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 17, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
First the Cubs get Braun's first road game, now Ozzie's first home game after CastroGate.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 19, 2012, 04:58:29 AM
Dodgers get a bad call in the ninth and the Brewers pull out another last at bit win.


I'll take it  :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: duckturtle79 on April 19, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
Dodgers get a bad call in the ninth and the Brewers pull out another last at bit win.


I'll take it  :)

It amazes me how umps especially when they're in good positions can miss a call so badly.  Morgan was clearly out, but the ump blew it.  Tough break for the Dodgers.  It's been a great series between the Crew and the Dodgers....as for the Cubs and Marlins series...egads.

Am I the only Cubs fan who stopped watching last night's game early?  The Cubs are on and I decide to watch TinTin.  No kids around or wife just me by myself.  I've seen bad Cubs teams in the past but this one has been downright ugly so far -- they seriously could set a record.

Even in the close games that they lose; they really don't feel like they're in it.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 23, 2012, 10:07:57 PM
I don't even care that they suck, that 9th inning against Motte was fun
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 30, 2012, 09:40:23 AM
The Brewers can't beat the Cardinals,  and the Phillies can't beat the Cubs.

Must be something with the gravitational pull 
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on April 30, 2012, 04:53:29 PM
I've always thought gravitational pull had a great deal of impact on baseball. That's why Jason Kendell led the league in CS when with the Brewers, because Prince's slowed runners down when running to 2nd
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 07, 2012, 06:19:43 AM
ARGH

What a devastating road trip!!!

Damn it
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 08, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Let's see.   the remaining SP with the exception of Greinke sucks, they lose Narveson, Gonzalez and Gamel to season ending injuries,  Weeks is batting 1/2 his weight with Ramirez right behind him and Hart still doesn't know how to run bases.

Other than that, it looks like the Crew is in fine shape.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 11, 2012, 07:22:34 AM

Weekend series against the rivals from the South.  Hoping it will be just the thing the Crew needs to jump start their anemic offense.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: donbedouin on May 14, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
Watching that Brewers series and looking at their roster got me thinking: "who the hell are half those guys"
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 15, 2012, 05:17:48 AM
Watching that Brewers series and looking at their roster got me thinking: "who the hell are half those guys"

1/2 of their roster is AAA  :(
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 18, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
The Brewers are painful to watch right now  :(

If you would have told me prior to the season starting that, by mid may the Angels, Red Sox, Phillies and the Brewers would be in last place in their respective divisions, I would have told you that you were nuts.

Truth is stranger than fiction I suppose
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 21, 2012, 11:29:57 AM
Losing a home series to the worse team in MLB stings!!!!!

Even the 16 run outburst is not quite enough to squelch the apprehension felt by Brewer fans


DAMNIT
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on June 07, 2012, 06:14:24 AM
Well,  this board didn't remain very active for too long.


Sigh
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on August 03, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
Well the Brewers turned out to be sellers this year.

Fielder leaving took some mojo out of the team.  Remains to be seen if anything can be gained from the Greinke deal.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CatsJP on August 09, 2012, 08:13:42 AM
Well,  this board didn't remain very active for too long.


Sigh

Let's try and revive it.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on August 09, 2012, 08:33:29 AM
Brew Crew sweep of the Reds?  Did I hear that right?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CatsJP on August 09, 2012, 08:42:08 AM
Brew Crew sweep of the Reds?  Did I hear that right?

Reds will get those games back, they have a 4 game set against my Cubs this weekend.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on August 09, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
LOL, maybe the Cubbies will have some luck.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CatsJP on August 09, 2012, 11:13:26 AM
They did just lose all of their games on a west coast trip, so they're probably due.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on August 09, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
I'll go with the Cubs taking the series.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 24, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
19 days till pitchers and catchers report


yeehaw
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on January 25, 2013, 10:42:37 AM
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Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 28, 2013, 06:51:51 AM

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Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 29, 2013, 12:45:10 PM

14
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blacktopbully on January 29, 2013, 12:53:56 PM
I'm heading there early to work on my 38 MPH fastball.. The A's need a right handed specialist out of the pen and I'm the guy for the job.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 29, 2013, 01:15:45 PM
 rofl
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 29, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
I imagine that the A's fans are pretty excited for the upcoming season.

I was rooting for them last year and hope they continue to give the "big" market teams hell
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blacktopbully on January 29, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
I am excited! I cannot wait for OPening Day... We have lots of pitching (as always), but not many bats (as always)

Honestly, last season the stars were all aligned and we were the best team in all of baseball after the AS Break... I always have high hopes, but to expect the same success as last year would not be realistic.

But still... I wear my emotions on my sleeve and hope we make another deep run!!!!!

GO A'S!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: blitzburgh on January 29, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Just trying to get to .500 at last!

Go pit3
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on January 29, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
We all know with a roster of players that have never been heard of,  the Cubbies are winning it all grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on January 29, 2013, 04:31:57 PM
We all know with a roster of players that have never been heard of,  the Cubbies are winning it all grin1
It would be a breath of fresh air to see that happen.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 30, 2013, 08:05:35 AM
It would be a breath of fresh air to see that happen.

that would also give pigs a license to fly  :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on January 30, 2013, 08:05:56 AM
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Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
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Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
11
Training camp is close Jedi !  You want in on any fantasy leagues ?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Is Keith around?  I won his MLB league last season.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
Is Keith around?  I won his MLB league last season.
Haven't seen Keith in quite some time !
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
I could jump in on a league, any suggestions?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:05:56 PM
I could jump in on a league, any suggestions?
They're not open yet...I'll save ya spot though.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
Thanks, just curious what site do you use?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:10:23 PM
Thanks, just curious what site do you use?
I prefer Yahoo.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
Sounds good.  Here at work it is a bit of a hit and miss on Yahoo.  I could get into football all season, but the NASCAR gets caught by the screening filter.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
Sounds good.  Here at work it is a bit of a hit and miss on Yahoo.  I could get into football all season, but the NASCAR gets caught by the screening filter.
We'll have to play it by ear !
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Sounds good.  Here at work it is a bit of a hit and miss on Yahoo.  I could get into football all season, but the NASCAR gets caught by the screening filter.
No problems with CBS though ?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
Send me the invite and I will get in at home if it doesn't work here.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:15:12 PM
Send me the invite and I will get in at home if it doesn't work here.
OK...right now as I said they are locked...won't be long though.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 01, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Yep, they will probably start opening up registration in a few weeks.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Yep, they will probably start opening up registration in a few weeks.
I love baseball more than football now ! Don't know how that happened exactly but it's all good.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: the_bandit on February 01, 2013, 04:53:57 PM
This kid is down for a baseball pool.  Holla atcha boy.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: 44Diesels on February 01, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
This kid is down for a baseball pool.  Holla atcha boy.
grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 04, 2013, 08:40:58 AM

8
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 05, 2013, 05:10:11 PM

7

oh yeah baby
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on February 06, 2013, 08:20:06 AM
"Hey guys...I got rid of my crows feet.."
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LBh-nfRFlAk/TulG_7JtEUI/AAAAAAAABYU/Y2M4ds18nV0/s1600/steroids7.jpg.scaled500.jpg)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 06, 2013, 09:02:48 AM
"Hey guys...I got rid of my crows feet.."
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LBh-nfRFlAk/TulG_7JtEUI/AAAAAAAABYU/Y2M4ds18nV0/s1600/steroids7.jpg.scaled500.jpg)



HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 08, 2013, 08:37:45 AM

4
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 10, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
2
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on February 11, 2013, 07:23:56 AM
1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on February 15, 2013, 10:31:35 AM
Well P&C's reported, time to get revved up for Baseball!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CatsJP on February 25, 2013, 09:14:40 AM
Listened to a couple games yesterday on the MLB app. It made my heart feel warmer.

Anybody else plan to watch the WBC?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: pittsports87 on March 19, 2013, 12:15:43 AM
It's a shame the Astros aren't in the division anymore, anytime the Pirates were on a 10 game losing streak they would always come into town and make sure they leave with the Pirates on a winning streak.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on March 28, 2013, 07:40:51 AM


T minus 5 and counting

let's get this show on the road
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on March 29, 2013, 08:43:14 AM
Time to print out the Brew Crew schedule!!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on March 29, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Time to print out the Brew Crew schedule!!

I heard the Brewers were handing out a free shot of HGH for anyone that purchases season tix...is that true?  grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on March 29, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
(http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/HGH-3-200x145.png)

Yep.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on March 29, 2013, 04:12:47 PM
haha1 Nice, Jedi!  I was referring to the banned substances that Brauny has in his Gatorade cup..but again, nice one.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on March 29, 2013, 04:14:39 PM
So are the Cubs going to be above .500 this season???
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on March 29, 2013, 04:24:51 PM
So are the Cubs going to be above .500 this season???
I'm going with above.  They are a sleeping giant..Jed...payroll is setup nice...good young talent...I will promise we will win a WS before 200 years from now! grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 08, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
Holy crap.  The Crew really scuffling without 3 of their best hitters and the SP giving up an ess load of runs

Might be a long summer   
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 08, 2013, 10:59:30 AM
Cubbies have their home opener today...and of course it could be rained out chic1 The Lord must really dislike us! facepalm
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 08, 2013, 01:05:58 PM

good thing for the Brewers

they could use an extra day to lick their wounds
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 18, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
Holy crap!!   A 3 game winning streak?

Will wonders never cease?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 19, 2013, 06:19:32 AM
WOW

A four game winning streak for the Crew after sweeping the defending World Champs?   Hoping they found their "home cooking" again
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Birdofprey99 on April 19, 2013, 01:32:17 PM
Well the Cubs arent as far out of it as some thought now are theyI see them as ALOT better then they are being given credit for even the games theyve lost theyve kept close
 Central                  W   L   Pct       GB   HomeRoad   RS   RA   Diff   Streak   L10
 St. Louis Cardinals   9   6   .600         --   4-2   5-4   83   56   +27   Won 1   7-3
 Cincinnati Reds   9   7   .562        0.5   8-2   1-5   92   64   +28   Won 4   5-5
 Pittsburgh Pirates   7   8   .467        2.0   5-4   2-4   55   63   -8   Lost 1   6-4
 Milwaukee Brewers   6   8   .429        2.5   4-5   2-3   57   75   -18   Won 4   5-5
 Chicago Cubs           5   9   .357        3.5   3-5   2-4   50   60   -10   Won 1   3-7
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Birdofprey99 on April 19, 2013, 01:34:45 PM
sorry that posted like chit
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 19, 2013, 01:42:55 PM
Brewers win streak will come to an end...mark it dude. grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 19, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
sorry that posted like chit


That's because you are talking about a chit team   :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 19, 2013, 01:57:03 PM
Brewers win streak will come to an end...mark it dude. grin1

Maybe next Monday
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on April 19, 2013, 02:18:26 PM
LOL, That is like telling someone that they will add their teams scores and let you multiply your scores and the winner will have the highest score at the end of the season.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 19, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
Yo dude and all centralites.....! Cards dealing with injurys but have good arms and some big bats. It will be ugly but look for a good race with the redbirds winning it the Ĺ‚ast day of regular season......

Thoughts....?    Go Cards! ber
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Birdofprey99 on April 19, 2013, 11:35:31 PM
The Cubs will finish just south of the .500 mark and they are finally in an actual rebuild mode unlike past claims, they wont take the division but will also not lose 100 games again. They have a good nucleus of young players that should take them to top of the Central in a few years,      As for how it pans out thos year IM going to say

Reds by a few games over the Cards
Cards
Brewers
Pirates and Cubs fighting over fourth place I have no faith in the Pirates pitching staff

And the best pitching staff in the Central is the Cards hands down and alot more arms in the system, with the Reds right behind them
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 20, 2013, 08:25:38 AM

1. Reds
2 Cardinals
3 Brewers
4. Pirates
5. Cubs

Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 20, 2013, 10:54:01 AM
1)Cards
2)Brewers
3)Reds
4)Pirates
5)Cubs

I'm thinking the difference between first place and fourth will be less than twenty games,should be a good race.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 20, 2013, 01:02:26 PM
1.Reds
2.Cards(wild card)
3.Cubs
4.Brewers
5.Pirates

Cards will make it to the NLCS...again..only to lose to the Nationals this time.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 20, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
Everybody looked good today... Ok 4out of 5, sorry Dee.

Lance Lynn was lights out tonight! Carlos the bomb Beltran is hot!

Go Cards!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 21, 2013, 12:04:32 AM
Everybody looked good today... Ok 4out of 5, sorry Dee.

Lance Lynn was lights out tonight! Carlos the bomb Beltran is hot!

Go Cards!
Theo has a plan...at least he is portraying that he has a plan...let's hope all of these good young pitching prospects pan out...wait..what good young pitching prospects? facepalm  Signs are pointing to me dressing up in a Wisky cheerleaders outfit..and that is good for no one...NO ONE!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 22, 2013, 07:02:14 PM
7 in a row and looking for more


YEEHAW
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CHASER on April 22, 2013, 08:25:12 PM
The Cards will be fine as long as all their starters go 8 and they score 16 a game.

4 runs in 1/3? Hurt to watch.

Bullpen ERA 3 points higher than the starters?

Tough fix right now.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 22, 2013, 09:10:19 PM
20 games in ..one game seperates four clubs... Holy shiznit !

Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CHASER on April 22, 2013, 09:14:59 PM
20 games in ..one game seperates four clubs... Holy shiznit !



yep, should be an interesting first half. It will sort out eventually.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 23, 2013, 08:42:16 AM
Great.

Another injury to a key player.

Oh the humanity!!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: ADouble on April 23, 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Is this where everyone is at nowadays? Talk about some BS on cbs. And, whats up with the poster above who said the Cubs will finish ahead of the Brewers?

This message board doesn't work on my office PC which is lame. Im having message board withdrawals..
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 23, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Is this where everyone is at nowadays? Talk about some BS on cbs. And, whats up with the poster above who said the Cubs will finish ahead of the Brewers?

This message board doesn't work on my office PC which is lame. Im having message board withdrawals..
That would be me...and it is a long season..hell it isn't even May yet!  A couple key injuries...Cubbies get hot...not out of the realm of possibility grin1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Arasmis on April 23, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
 NGSmiley

Good to see another Brew Crew fan.  Welcome Adub!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 24, 2013, 06:29:49 AM
Is this where everyone is at nowadays? Talk about some BS on cbs. And, whats up with the poster above who said the Cubs will finish ahead of the Brewers?

This message board doesn't work on my office PC which is lame. Im having message board withdrawals..

DUDE.  About frickin time.  As far as as the message board not working on your pc, try this.  Go to your profile then Look and Layout.  The very first line is titled Current Theme.  Click change and select black on black and save.  The appearance should look much better after that.

And yeah,  I chuckled a bit when I read that the Cubs will finish first but, like he said, it is a long season  :)

Brew Crew on the other hand is white hot.  Keep it rollin boys
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Arasmis on April 24, 2013, 07:22:26 AM
George Webbs must be getting nervous!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 24, 2013, 08:04:42 AM
 free gut bombs     ddbana
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CHASER on April 25, 2013, 07:28:09 AM
S-to-the-WEEP...

Go Cards!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 25, 2013, 07:38:02 AM
S-to-the-WEEP...

Go Cards!


The Cardinals!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: CHASER on April 25, 2013, 08:02:58 AM

The Cardinals!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


lol.....long story...
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Arasmis on April 25, 2013, 09:18:02 AM
Went sleepy before the 9th last night.  Roenicke seemed pretty ticked about that last out last night.   Anyone see it?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on April 25, 2013, 09:19:52 AM
Heard there was a bad call, but missed it all together
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 25, 2013, 09:24:40 AM
Went sleepy before the 9th last night.  Roenicke seemed pretty ticked about that last out last night.   Anyone see it?

Didn't actually see it but heard bitching about it this morning.  Weak sauce if you ask me


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_04_24_milmlb_sdnmlb_1&mode=video#/play?content_id=26574707 (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_04_24_milmlb_sdnmlb_1&mode=video#/play?content_id=26574707)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 26, 2013, 06:50:43 AM
 If the Cards bats get hot... Look out


 blitz1
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on April 26, 2013, 07:11:06 AM
If the Cards bats get hot... Look out


 blitz1

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, everyday would be Christmas  :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on April 26, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
I was going to say WHEN they get hot!


......and you know they will!

Go Cards
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 04, 2013, 10:58:35 PM
G D those Redbirds

dem sunzabitches
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on May 05, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
 thanx

Great series packerZ....!

 ber
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Arasmis on May 05, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Went Friday and couldn't even enjoy the game as the 7 year old was already bored at the top of the 2nd.

Darn Cards.  Now I know how the rest of the NFC North feels.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 06, 2013, 06:59:56 AM
thanx

Great series packerZ....!

 ber


Why I outta.............

Holy crap Jonny - talk about getting their arses handed to them.  Still long way to go but the Cards are now in the heads of the Crew and that is something that is going to stick with them ALL season.

Yadier Molina    monkeypee1    I hate that guy
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on May 06, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
Yadi is the bomb, you wish he was on your team..... Don't ya?

Hell it's only may, youneverknow !

 gtrdude
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 06, 2013, 09:33:35 PM
Yadi is the bomb, you wish he was on your team..... Don't ya?

Hell it's only may, youneverknow !

 gtrdude

Negative.  I think he is the best catcher in the majors without a doubt but also think that he acts like a thug.
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on May 06, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
Thug..? N. Morgan type thug ?

I could see where some may see it that way, of course I don't....

He hasn't done anything on or off the field that would cause me to do anything but praise the man

Go Cards!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 06, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
Thug..? N. Morgan type thug ?

I could see where some may see it that way, of course I don't....

He hasn't done anything on or off the field that would cause me to do anything but praise the man

Go Cards!

Of course you don't Jonny.  And I don't think Braun is juicing    :)
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on May 06, 2013, 10:06:01 PM
Yeah and every day is Christmas ...!!!

 ber

 CNA
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 06, 2013, 10:11:13 PM
effen ay brother    effen ay
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 09, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
God Damn it.   Get thumped during the home stand now go on the road to the Pirates, Red and Cardinals.

Have to stay the course and get at least 1/2 of those games.

Effen Ricky Weeks.  I have officially given up on that douche copter
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Arasmis on May 10, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
A .188 BA?! 

Whose next in the depth squad?
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: Jedi on May 10, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
Rickey just being Rickey....

Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 10, 2013, 09:29:44 AM
Rickey just being Rickey....



I know - that, unfortunately is the problem

I say sit that POS and move the Yuni Bomber to 2nd when Hart returns
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: jonnytsunami on May 11, 2013, 06:42:01 AM
If it makes you feel any better, my favorite name is miller.....as in Shelby!

Go Cards!
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: packerzrule on May 12, 2013, 11:52:14 AM
If it makes you feel any better, my favorite name is miller.....as in Shelby!

Go Cards!

Thanks for reminding me  :(

Damn these Brewers.  1/2 game out of first a week and a half ago and now 7/12 back.  If they're not careful,  they will be double digits out by Memorial Day.

SIGH
Title: Re: NL Central
Post by: FOREPLUS on May 12, 2013, 02:48:44 PM
The Cards start the week off easy as they play the Mets. I'm hoping they play spoiler but probably not facepalm