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« on: August 29, 2012, 08:53:04 PM »
You know, I often wonder why we struggle with debt.

Why is it ok for our Government to spend more than it makes and it's frowned upon with taxpayers?

Doesn't a surplus in Tax Revenue mean that you're getting over taxed?

Would you mind being taxed a little if you had a choice as to where your tax money was going?

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 08:58:04 PM »
You know, I often wonder why we struggle with debt.

Why is it ok for our Government to spend more than it makes and it's frowned upon with taxpayers?

Doesn't a surplus in Tax Revenue mean that you're getting over taxed?

Would you mind being taxed a little if you had a choice as to where your tax money was going?

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 09:02:40 PM »
Is that what this section is for??
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 09:16:41 PM »
Jrny, I wasn't sure where to post it so I choose here since I built it....LOL
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 10:27:18 PM »
hehe, oh righty-o!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 02:42:14 PM »
I want to be taxed more so we can payoff the debt sooner... hmm1
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 05:40:16 PM »
Are these like deep thoughts that aren't deep? ;)
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 07:01:09 PM »
They aren't clear thoughts so they must be foggy thoughts.   2c
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 08:03:04 PM »
I'd be willing to be taxed a little more, as long as it evened out. There should be a nice little table that is very clear and concise as to how much you will be taxed and where it goes.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 08:50:11 PM »
FORE, what if our tax money went towards roads and edication, where as business tax went towards welfare and social programs?  I know I'm leaving out a bunch more such as defense, SS and Medicare but I think you get the idea.

We had an issue where in Washington about a bridge:

VAN ZANDT, Wash. -- Some call it the bridge to nowhere.

So why does Whatcom County want to spend millions of tax dollars to replace the old Potter Road Bridge?

The bridge in a rural part of the county is rusty and crumbling. That's no surprise considering the structure is more than 80 years old.

But what may be surprising to some is the $10 million price tag the county is considering to replace a bridge that only a handful of people use.

"I would say between 50 to 70 families that live out here, and we all cross that bridge every day and we all pay taxes," said area resident Chuck Held.

Held says he'd be trapped without the bridge. He adds as a taxpayer, he pays for roads and bridges he doesn't use. And while $10 million is a lofty sum, he at least wants the bridge repaired.

"A two-lane bridge? I don't care as long as it's stable, and I can get back and forth. That's the concern for everybody on the road," he said.

Whatcom County Council member Ken Mann says "wear and tear" over the years led the bridge to deterioration.

"This is an 80-year-old bridge," he said.

Mann said he doesn't support the county paying millions to replace the bridge. He's pushing for a $100,000 study to consider other options. That would also qualify the county for $7 million in federal money for road projects.

The council unanimously voted for the plan on Tuesday night in order to secure $7.7 for the bridge project. But the council also instructed public works to look for a cheaper alternative.


I'd like to know where my taxes went and if my taxes went to help repair this bridge instead of a study whether grapes should be washed in hot or cold water, then I don't mind paying a little bit more.
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 08:58:43 PM »
Fog you and are on the same boat, I would be willing to pay more, but I want to know exactly what I'm paying more for. And ifthe little guy is shelling out more, everyone else better too.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 09:12:29 PM »
It must be the 64 thing FORE.... blitz1
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 09:13:58 PM »
rofl
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2012, 09:33:20 PM »
Here's a Foggy thought...

Did Unions bring upon more over sea jobs because they wanted to much?
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 12:38:43 AM »
I want to be taxed more so we can payoff the debt sooner... hmm1

No, no, no.  Quit spending!
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 01:20:09 AM »
No, no, no.  Quit spending!

Wise Idea..Who's in favor of quit spending?
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 06:56:18 AM »
No, no, no.  Quit spending!

What cuts would you make?

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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 10:37:26 AM »
Cut Foreign Aid
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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2012, 02:32:35 AM »
http://www.usfederalbudget.us/federal_budget_detail_fy13


Foreign aid I assume falls under the heading of "other spending" which combined is 5% of the budget (so foreign aid is a pretty small piece of the pie...). Meanwhile, interest on your debt accounts for 6% of the total budget.
It would therefore be sensible as you suggested, Fog, to pay down the debt but completely cutting foreign aid doesn't even cover the interest payments...

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Re: Foggy Thoughts
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 07:56:27 PM »
So next we cut welfare...
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2012, 02:01:13 AM »
You know you're not going to like what I say next...    rofl


America produces about a quarter of the entire world's GDP yet 41% of the world's military expenditure is American. This is disproportionately high especially when it accounts for 24% of the budget and everyone agrees you owe too much. It's just not good buisness management.

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2012, 01:09:40 PM »
What cuts would you make?
I suppose I would want to cut foreign aid and get alot of our ground troops home, not isolationism but not big brother jumping in everything, welfare would take a big cut and you would have to pass a drug test to get your money, I have to pass a drug test and I work for my money. big cut to the prison system no TV for you, and if you want to eat you work, chain gang baby, no rights for you.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 09:24:21 PM »
You know you're not going to like what I say next...    rofl


America produces about a quarter of the entire world's GDP yet 41% of the world's military expenditure is American. This is disproportionately high especially when it accounts for 24% of the budget and everyone agrees you owe too much. It's just not good buisness management.

Can we send the terrorists the bill?
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2012, 05:19:04 PM »
Cut Foreign Aid
Only to Australia ;).

How about ending the damn war. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2012, 05:20:55 PM »
Can we send the terrorists the bill?
Yes.
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